Did anyone hear the recordings of Margaret Thatcher's 'Green Moment' speech? (So far, that's one question).
The speech was made so long ago that it was before I began listening to the radio as much as I do now. Up to a point, it was a prescient and revelatory occasion. We ( I mean us lot who are normally looked down on as slavishly left-wing by slavish right-wingers) may have to change our traditional attitude toward the woman.
She berated other nations (ok, nothing new there) for turning a blind eye at mankind's contribution toward global warming, quoting polar scientists who had noticed the effects of industrialisation on the ice-caps, etc, and said that immediate action should be taken by industrial nations in general, and big business in particular. Nothing could be done without the cooperation of big business, she more or less said. Of course, nothing was done. Too much money involved.
But wait, Thatcher herself contributed to the Green effort against global warming immensely, thirty years ago!
She shut down all the British coal mines!
I take it all back. If the current bunch of twats who call themselves Conservatives had any sense, they would be milking this for all it is worth.
I heard it too.....interesting
ReplyDeleteShe was a scientist.
ReplyDeleteShe was instrumental in developing the soft ice cream known as Mr Whippy. She was a food scientist as far as I know.
DeletePS: I like not to eat food designed by scientists, but these days it is difficult to avoid. It's the same old story; unless you grow the stuff yourself, forget it. The whole thing is not our responsibility. We are being duped by various factions that it is, but they are liars.
DeleteSo it's all back to big everything and let them solve their problem themselves! Why, brilliant, Tom.
DeleteChina. India. Russia. Europe in general. We had our industrial revolution about 200 years ago, so we need to Kepler mouths shut or set an example will not be followed.
Delete'Keep our' not Keppler of course!
DeletePoliticians have always been liars. Look at them, Pitt, Peel, Wilson, Blair to name but 4. Boris Johnson is aware of Mrs Thatcher's speech on climate change and referred to it not long ago. Her chemistry degree could have taken her into any lab, she just happened to work for Lyons. You seem full of hate at the moment. Scargill closed the coal mines by refusing to negotiate . He finished what Prime Minister Wilson started along with Mick McGahy.. I notice this post did not have the caveat that nobody will be attacked for their response. Yes I did hear the programme.
ReplyDeleteYou know my views on Scargill. Maybe I should have said that the destruction was between him and Thatcher. I'm not full of hate. I am full of depression. Wait utill I get started on your beloved BBC and what is going to happen to it now that Boris has a colossal mandate to change the rules in whatever way him and his cronies see fit. That should get you nicely wound up. So Margaret Thatcher could have worked in any lab could she? Then why did she choose an ice-cream factory?
DeleteBring it on. Young people don't care about the BBC like you do anyway. She didn't get the job she wanted at ICI so she ended up at Lyons. You'll love that.
DeleteAgreed. People like the ones who control pay to view channels depend on young, ambitious luckies who convince the elderly BBC controllers that they know how to draw them in. The government controls BBC funding. The BBC is fucked, but I know you don't care. Lowest common denominator = popular vote. That's what I find most depressing.
DeleteI'm sorry you see it like that.
DeleteSo am I.
DeleteWhy didn't you mention Wilson; He closed 290 Coal Mines. Scargill closed 170. Yet Thatcher always gets the silly nonsense. Please do your research before writing such rubbish.
ReplyDeleteHa ha! Colonel Blimp accuses me of writing rubbish! The sole purpose of these last few posts was to get you and Rachel to show your heads above the parapet. My work here is done.
DeleteI couldn't be arsed with the other two but I couldn't let misrepresentation pass me by.
DeleteThat's fine by me. Just so long as you can be arsed about something.
DeleteI certainly can but I can't always say it all in a comment, or say it at all.
DeleteI kbow, but at least you care. I know you care. X
DeleteYep. I do.
DeleteI am finding it difficult to dissociate my attitude from the way things are panning out from my predictions right now. You will be ok, but I will not. This is a fact which you will never understand.
DeleteAs I have so often said, the left hate any success from the right. As you are well aware, Mrs T saved the UK from the financial disaster left by Labour, and totally turned the economy around. The Coal Board asked the government for permission to close 13 pits; Scargill did the rest. Everyone knows this, and they also know that Wilson closed 290. Why do you people try to perpetuate the myth? It's just plain silly.
Delete'The Coal Board asked the government for permission to close 13 pits' - Who were the Coal Board? The government of course. Who else would they be with a nationalised industry? Don't be so silly.
DeleteMrs T preferred to import coal from Spain and watch her own citizens starve rather than give in to Scargill. We are reaping the long-term benefit of her housing and financial strategy right now, and anyone who did not jump on the bad wagon of 'wealth creation' is going to suffer. 'You people...' That sums up your attitude nicely.
DeleteI was going to say to Weave, below, that we are not arguing. I would have been wrong though, wouldn't I? I wasn't wanting to argue when I put my first comment. I think it would be good to check Mick McGahey and the history of the Mineworkers Union for the origins of the decline of the mines and how it started in Wilson's time though.
DeleteAnd as with shipbuilding on the Clyde, it was the Trade Unions who destroyed the industry in the end and stopped it from competing in the world.
DeleteWhen I read how you are all arguing about t things which happened years ago rather than stop crying over spilt milk and looking to the future I recognise the attitude which runs through all politics today. It makesme so sad.
ReplyDeleteI cannot envisage my future Weave.
DeleteI wish they'd shut all of our coal mines.
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