Wednesday 15 January 2020

Quick question

How many of you believe that man-made climate change is a myth, and how many think that the scientists have a valid point based on data collected since the 19th century?

This is a genuine question, and nobody will be attacked no matter what their opinion is. I am 90% ignorant of the facts myself.

27 comments:

  1. I, too, believe the scientists. And if the whole world doesn't wake up and start listening to them soon, it's going to be the end for humans. It may already be too late.

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  2. I believe the facts. I've been gardening and keeping weather diary for decades. Things have noticeably changed here in NE Ohio since the late 70s. Climate change is real.

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  3. I believe both scientists and archaeologists. The climate has been in a state of change over thousands of years *and* is warming at a more rapid clip currently.

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  4. The four before have said all I would say, including change began mammals first drew breath. Completely destructive change happened with the industrial evolution, and we have been unwilling to change.

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  5. Even Cobbett saw change when he observed and wrote. We are exaggerating it further

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  6. It has to be the scientists and the factual evidence.

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  7. Yes climate change is real and has been happening to the world long before man started his pollution to exacerbate it.

    We are still emerging from our last ice age, about 10,000 years ago and still warming up again since then. These ice ages seem to go in cycles of millennia. After the last one the UK was still a part of the European land mass and the melting ice caused us to become an island as sea levels rose.

    No one knows the real reason why this happens to the world, but one day we will descend into another ice age and, if man still exists, we will then be worrying about the increased cold and ice sheets.

    Meanwhile it might just help if we did not pollute so much. whatever the little UK does the polluting giants of China, India and USA will negate it easily. And one really big volcanic eruption will up global pollution for years

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  8. I think there are two parts to the answer. The first is that earth, as in James Lovelock's Gaia, has been through cycles of climate change before, and is capable of self-regulating. The second, though, is that the earth now faces man-made challenges of pollution, soil erosion, depletion of natural resources and a massive rise in population, none of which were present at times of climate change before.
    We can't know whether we are tipping the scales of balance too far - but we can try to mitigate the damage that we are aware of.

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  9. I'm worried. I believe it's real.

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  10. Winters have definitely changed. They seem a lot milder but the gales are getting worse. We had no summer in Ireland last year but the south of England was roasting hot.

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  11. I believe the experts. They're experts because they know what they're talking about.
    Buying something in a tin or jar because it recycles better than plastic and using my own shopping bag pales into insignificance compared with how the developing nations are polluting the planet. Rubbish tipped into the oceans, chemical waste poured into the rivers that people depend on for their water supply, trees chopped down or burnt to plant more profitable crops.
    Yes we need to use less stuff and create less waste but some countries are a century behind in responsible manufacturing and until we can address that we're just tickling the surface of the problem.

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  12. I believe the scientists and feel a depressing sense of hopelessness at the way things are going. As Jean says above, I try to do my bit but what’s the use?

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  13. Absolutely real. And the older a person is, the more they should believe that since they've lived enough years to see the change for themselves.

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  14. There’s a bit of both going on, that’s for sure.......... in my humble opinion 🤓. XXXX

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  15. New Energy Information Administration (EIA) data released this week show that U.S. per capita carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions are at their lowest levels since 1950. As the “Emissions per Capita” column from the following EIA chart shows, 2017 U.S. per capita CO2 emissions were 15.8 metric tons per person, their lowest levels in 67 years.Incredibly, the United States leads all major nations in carbon reductions this century, according to the latest BP data. In fact, the United States decreased carbon emissions 42 million tons from 2016 levels in 2017 — more than any other country — while renewable- and regulation-happy Europe collectively saw emissions increase 92 million tons, including year-over-year emission increases in Germany and France.

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    1. I still don't understand how industrial emissions can be attributed to individual people in the form of tons. There are a lot of statistics being used by both sides, and both sides have different ways to calculate them.

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  16. I don't think man-made climate change is a myth, while at the same time realizing change in climate is a naturally occurring thing. In the meantime, while the battle rages, we truly need to care for Mother Earth. We've been given all we need and seem to be hell-bent on ruining it all.

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  17. Thanks for all of these comments. I am wondering if the larger developing nations are the biggest contributors to the problem, and the countries which went through industrial development about 200 years ago are now denying the others the chance to develop in the same way we did, and - at the same time - are preaching about the way forward.

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  18. At the risk of being a radical absolutist, it’s not about belief, that’s a word for religion. The science is in and pretty much unanimously- anthropogenic climate change is happening.

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    1. Trump doesn't believe the science, so that in itself is a good enough reason to trust the scientists as far as I am concerned. Scott Morrison thinks that human activity may contribute a little towards climate change, but he wants to continue to sell millions of tons of coal to China. Meanwhile even the catastrophic flooding is still not enough to put out the fires.

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    2. Talking of trust, I heard a political thinker saying that we are heading for an even bigger crisis because of the almost complete lack of trust in our leaders due to their chronic inability to tell the truth when it comes to protecting the people who make them the most money. Same the world over.

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  19. No snow, no ice this year. And no one here has even mentioned skating, let alone the Elfstedentocht.

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