I suppose that the Brexit voters knew that we would be excluded from all the joint European space and arms projects which G.B. has been pouring billions into for years?
I hear that we will no longer be able to use the Galileo satellite navigation system on which we have spent 1.5 billion to develop with our European partners. Can you imagine how much money America, China or India would charge us to use theirs? Can you imagine the chaos if we fell out with any of those countries and had to use the stars to steer our submarines and destroyers through troubled, hostile waters?
Theresa May has told us not to worry. We will just build our own systems - from scratch.
Yes, let's just crash out and run the country on the WTO framework. Nobody is going to kick us when we are down, are they? Are they...?
The rest of the world has been waiting for over 200 years for us to make a mistake of this magnitude.
You're still blaming Leave voters I see. I do not see the mess we are in as my fault.
ReplyDeleteI blame Cameron primarily. Any problems with that, or are you going to take it personally as you take every other bloody thing?
DeleteOh, and yes I AM blaming the leavers for the worst part of this mess. What do you expect?
DeleteHow sweet. I didn't take it personally at all only in so far as I took it personally on behalf of all those who voted Leave and spoke accordingly.
Delete'Spoke'? Isn't that a bit of an exaggeration?
DeleteYou're being pedantic again. Over scrupulous of me.
Delete'On behalf'? Don't kid yourself. I don't speak 'on behalf' of all the people who are fucking angry at the stupidity of this fiasco which will take anything up to 50 years to sort out, I am just expressing my un-humble opinion. I am so fucking angry that I am surprised that we have not donned green hi-viz and not taken to the streets to express our humble opinions. I have reached the point now where I do not give a flying fuck about some soft notion of divisiveness. What is happening will affect the next 3 generations to come in such a negative way that WW2 will seem like a good influence by comparison. I am also sick of anyone who denies that - whatever the outcome - the whole thing is a fucking disaster. Maybe I should just prepare for my holiday and go to bed. I'm not even drunk.
DeleteHow can anyone sit there and say that this stupid fucking mess has not been created by a-social arseholes and has virtually no chance of any solution within the next three governments? Fucking dimwits.
DeleteRachel, if you knew it was going to be like this you wouldn't have voted for it. But you were told how bad it would be. You must have chosen to believe the warnings were Project Fear and you must have nodded at the idea that we didn't need doomsaying "experts," and you chose to believe people known to be dodgy liars like Boris Johnson. You are entitled to believe what you want, but I think you would have a hard job convincing anyone it was a wise decision that you made.
DeleteTom can deal with me and I him. Thank you.
DeleteAnd that is quite enough.
DeleteI'll be the judge of that...
DeleteShe can talk to you if she wants. The comment was addressed to me and I have had enough so I answer on my own behalf.
DeleteGood god!
DeleteGood god nothing Shawn. I was talking to Tom who I believe had misunderstood me.
DeleteI was also talking to Tom.
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DeleteIt is the person taking us into this mess I blame. Not the remainers or the leavers. Altho some false information was given so again I know who to blame for that.
ReplyDeleteThe only difference between leave voters and remain voters was a very slight variation between optimism and pessimism. No real thought went into fucking anything in the brief run up to the yes/no vote. Anyone feel confident enough to argue against that, or have we all learned our lesson now?
DeleteThis needs to be writ large and posted everywhere around the country.
ReplyDeleteBut not on the side of a bus, eh Weave?
DeleteToo bloody right. I voted to stay. We have put so much in, it is wrong to leave now.
ReplyDeleteWe will never reap any benefit, no matter the eventual outcome.
DeleteHere we go again. Think of some project/agreement made between UK and anyone in Europe and say that it will all go down the toilet. The Airbus wont have wings, our footballers wont be able to play for PSG and half of Chelsea will have to go home. We will run out of Drugs , we wont be able to get any French wine, German saussage or whatever. How about nothing from the CERN project ? For God's sake get a grip. Think PROJECT FEAR!
ReplyDeleteSo you think that we will be allowed to continue to use all the systems I mention which we have already paid for without having to pay for them again? We are committed to continue to pay for stuff we have already signed up to with no say in their future, let alone any guarantee we can still use them. Don't be obtuse by talking about French wine and German sausage. It's a bit more complicated than that, or hadn't you noticed?
DeleteThe whole thing is so absolutely astonishing that I have almost given up believing it is real. How a country can take a breadknife and saw at its own jugular vein like Britain is doing over Brexit... well, I'#m just speechless. I suspect many Brexit voters are also living in a kind of a dream and don't believe it will be as bad as that either.
ReplyDeleteAs someone living in Europe, I'm left waiting to see what exactly happens. At gloomier moments, I envisage having to return to some giant camp on Salisbury Plain with a couple of million others till T. May and Co. work out what to do with us all.
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