tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post5681372164199819692..comments2024-03-26T11:27:35.814-07:00Comments on Tom Stephenson: Successful peopleUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-46791610995615029662016-09-10T04:55:16.953-07:002016-09-10T04:55:16.953-07:00Thank you for your reply.
I "display quite a...Thank you for your reply.<br /><br />I "display quite a high degree of sociopathic tendencies on the spectrum", you say. Spectrum defined as ...? I am so glad you are not my father. If he'd say that I'd take him seriously. At least he'd know what he is talking about.<br /><br />Let's not get all high and mighty on my expression "rot in hell". It's a figure of speech for those of us who do NOT believe in an afterlife. For you to say that's "inhumane" makes me laugh. But then, see above, you have deemed me a sociopath. <br /><br />I take your point re the Ethopian's remark. However, it's still shite, just as was my "friend's".Let's call them quits.<br /><br />Back to the first paragraph of your reply: Isn't it such a shame that people are too ashamed to ask for financial help outright, make their despair clear, because ... <br /><br />UAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-17269907446879922452016-09-10T03:13:59.490-07:002016-09-10T03:13:59.490-07:00Ok. Yes I understand that. But that person sufferi...Ok. Yes I understand that. But that person suffering would not be able to see that in the blackness but would no doubt have been through it in his mind over and over. Maybe it was what stopped P in the end; I know I can take no credit whatsover for stopping him. Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-18342568656162785782016-09-10T03:00:08.615-07:002016-09-10T03:00:08.615-07:00Ok, then. Maybe you misunderstand me. Maybe I shou...Ok, then. Maybe you misunderstand me. Maybe I should have said that the effects of suicide ruin more lives than just the one taken. The self may have gone but the selfishness remains.Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-78065039665408717602016-09-10T02:55:22.036-07:002016-09-10T02:55:22.036-07:00Your friend who blurted out the first thing in her...Your friend who blurted out the first thing in her head by recommending you kill yourself, does not immediately seem like a very good one to me. She does remind me of the Ethiopean who you don't show any signs of tolerance or understanding towards, as you do with your 'friend'.Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-90426977990039891912016-09-10T02:49:56.975-07:002016-09-10T02:49:56.975-07:00I think you have enlightened yourself. The man who...I think you have enlightened yourself. The man who refused the loan was constantly being tapped for cash, even though he was not particularly wealthy. The man who asked for it did not - like most desperate people - make his desperation clear enough, probably because embarrassment is one of the last social inhibitions to leave you.<br /><br />So the man who refused the loan should 'rot in hell'? If you do not understand what a hard and inhuman thing this is to say, then I am not sure I identify with you, and you display quite a high degree of sociopathic tendencies on the spectrum.<br /><br />Of course the Ethiopian mindlessly said a callous thing. This is why it stuck in my mind, and why I used it as the last line on the post. Stating the obvious is a rather strange thing to do too.Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-4348566861727668082016-09-10T02:41:09.926-07:002016-09-10T02:41:09.926-07:00Now I am wondering...Now I am wondering...Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-66135878846678467702016-09-10T00:58:45.797-07:002016-09-10T00:58:45.797-07:00I am puzzled. You say I "have strange friends...I am puzzled. You say I "have strange friends and strange attitudes towards others". I have no idea what you mean. Maybe you'll be good enough to take a minute to explain.<br /><br />"Strange friends"? I mentioned one of them, the American. Even though her remark was startling I wouldn't call her strange. Some people blurt out the first thing that comes to mind. One does have to make allowances.<br /><br />But in what way is my attitude to others strange? I might have got some of your story's characters muddled but the one ("mutual friend") who refused the dead man a loan should rot in hell. I know what I am talking about. People who do have money and sit on it (never lender nor borrower be - being their sanctimonious sing song) are the very worst. As to the Ethopian: What a callous thing to say.<br /><br />Looking forward to your enlightening me.<br /><br />UAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-68446506245080014692016-09-09T19:51:17.127-07:002016-09-09T19:51:17.127-07:00I am saddened by your continued belief that suicid...I am saddened by your continued belief that suicide is selfish even after reading my comment. The blackness that consumed him took him away from me and he could see no way out. It is a miracle he is still here. The person who is mentally ill to the point of suicide has, putting it bluntly, completely lost the plot. It is a terribly misunderstood illness.Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-83259302950041656312016-09-09T17:33:13.269-07:002016-09-09T17:33:13.269-07:00This comment has been removed by the author. landscapehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06680413416745254180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-80285798268844184292016-09-09T17:20:32.836-07:002016-09-09T17:20:32.836-07:00I know it has been said very often, but suicides a...I know it has been said very often, but suicides are very selfish and uncaring.Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-35493320676305590242016-09-09T17:19:20.657-07:002016-09-09T17:19:20.657-07:00You have strange friends and strange attitudes tow...You have strange friends and strange attitudes towards others.Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-53645908830854753752016-09-09T17:16:56.468-07:002016-09-09T17:16:56.468-07:00Good outcome.Good outcome.Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-57279916563870550332016-09-09T17:09:55.447-07:002016-09-09T17:09:55.447-07:00It's not easy to be your brother's keeper....It's not easy to be your brother's keeper. I'm saying that generically, here, but when my brother killed himself, forty years ago, family and friends struggled with What If? The ripples continue to this day; on the other hand, like any fact of history, it happened, and we get on.Joanne Noragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16601010208310707750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-91112040189363610072016-09-09T15:29:29.198-07:002016-09-09T15:29:29.198-07:00Well told. What a story. Remind me to take you wit...Well told. What a story. Remind me to take you with me should I ever wish to sit round a campfire with no more than my own thoughts for company.<br /><br />Special thought for Rachel. I saw her punch line coming. Not because I am clever. Just something permeating her blog posts. And there it was.<br /><br />Some years ago a friend of mine (she is American - so one may forgive her) said to me: "If I were you I'd kill myself." Come again?<br /><br />Whilst I acknowledge the bleakness Rachel describes - when you have a child you don't kill yourself. It's the ultimate no no. Anyway, why would I kill myself over a financial catastrophe?<br /><br />As to that "friend", now remorseful, may he rot in hell. The Ethopian. Well ... He most certainly won't be known by me.<br /><br />UAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-971522131844096872016-09-09T14:13:38.034-07:002016-09-09T14:13:38.034-07:00No, I live with him.No, I live with him.Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-78668671822996252592016-09-09T13:56:17.168-07:002016-09-09T13:56:17.168-07:00Did your person kill themself or not?Did your person kill themself or not?Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-10104515995389171242016-09-09T13:37:17.216-07:002016-09-09T13:37:17.216-07:00Good advice. Better than to jump in front of a tra...Good advice. Better than to jump in front of a train. When I read of these incidents I always think of the train driver who has to go home to his wife and kids. Gwil Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03305768121713053837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-2816687199820118612016-09-09T12:58:55.637-07:002016-09-09T12:58:55.637-07:00By the time suicidal thoughts arrived the person I...By the time suicidal thoughts arrived the person I knew had disappeared. All logical sense as you say in your reply to Donna has gone and it is wrong to say that the person is selfish as I know many people do. I am afraid that all reasoning like that has gone into the blackness and the person has gone and reasonable thought trains do not exist. Believe me I have lived through this not once but twice with the same manRachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-5444570526715044942016-09-09T12:44:02.011-07:002016-09-09T12:44:02.011-07:00Best to give in and take all that pointless and ba...Best to give in and take all that pointless and bad advice from people who seem to pretend to care.Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-6735129959389135782016-09-09T12:43:13.216-07:002016-09-09T12:43:13.216-07:00Yes, it is bloody hard work, but what is a life wo...Yes, it is bloody hard work, but what is a life worth?Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-4619336819003494782016-09-09T12:42:26.550-07:002016-09-09T12:42:26.550-07:00You have to think of others before topping yoursel...You have to think of others before topping yourself. It is a duty. You have to allow others - your nearest and dearest if you have some - to help you, otherwise you fuck them up forever.Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-85929823544596791432016-09-09T12:40:19.784-07:002016-09-09T12:40:19.784-07:00I was asked recently how - if ever - I would choos...I was asked recently how - if ever - I would choose a mode of suicide, and I said 'pistol shot to the heart'. They said, 'why not head?' and I said that I would not want anyone to have to clear my head up.<br /><br />Shoot syourself in the heart, and it stops pumping immediately. No mess, no fuss.Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-4235052994581359272016-09-09T12:37:52.305-07:002016-09-09T12:37:52.305-07:00Just think how many friends I would have now if I ...Just think how many friends I would have now if I were successfull!Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-34413164459824075712016-09-09T12:37:10.201-07:002016-09-09T12:37:10.201-07:00I've always suspected that you are blessed and...I've always suspected that you are blessed and charmed, but what do I know?Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2505385214324438018.post-57073456225784002342016-09-09T12:36:27.748-07:002016-09-09T12:36:27.748-07:00Being alive in your homeland counts for a lot thes...Being alive in your homeland counts for a lot these days.Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.com